Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disputes and riots against tamil

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is clear that this is original research and POV and that there's a distinct lack of reliable sources to support an article. —SpacemanSpiff 05:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Disputes and riots against tamil

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Delete. COPYVIO. I had tagged the page with CSD, which was removed by an IP. Copyvio with this site. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 16:10, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

• keep, cleanup. I fail to see any copyvio against the URL cited. If there are small pieces I didn't notice at a glance, just remove them from article. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:22, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
• delete Most available references referreing to the title deal with the Sinhalese-Tamil conflict in Sri Lanka, not India. The entire article was written with only one reference. The concept of the article isn't imaginary, but very little seems to be written on the subject in regard to India. Fails WP:RS. Tapered (talk) 02:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

  The article was cut-and-paste collection from various sources, incuding wikipedia articles on the subject. I deleted several largest unreferenced pieces which were not based on wikipedia articles. The pieces based on wikipedia articles do not immediately require references, because the refs may be found an articles mentioned ad "main" for corresponding sections. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

• Comment If the article survives, it must be renamed to Anti-Tamil sentiment, per Category:anti-national sentiment). Staszek Lem (talk) 16:56, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. Its content is a mish-mash of stuff, and its introduction isn't much better. The subject matter is unclear; per Staszek Lem it should be renamed if kept, maybe under Anti-Tamil sentiment in Karnataka. But much of the current content isn't part of anything at all, so I don't see much value in keeping what is misnamed and unclearly defined. Drmies (talk) 17:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
• Comment: There is a definite WP:COI in this article and this page is totally biased in pushing a POV. The article has not been written in non-neutral way. For example, under section Tamil smuggler encounter issue, article creator lifted text from article 2015 sandalwood smugglers encounter in Andhra Pradesh and blatantly copy+pasted it. The Sandalwood article is about a Police encounter of 20 smugglers (which was an alleged fake encounter) and had nothing to do with riots against Tamils. Article makes controversial claims without citing any references (I cleaned up some such claims). Definite case of COI and POV and copy+paste from other Wikipedia articles. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:26, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Sure, but COI and POV aren't necessarily reasons for deletion, and the copyvio bits have been commented on. Let's focus on whether the ostensible subject is notable. Drmies (talk) 19:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

• No Drmies, I did not try to open another channel of communication but simple gave my observation (and that's why I did not even attempt to change the "goalpost"); which I feel is also an important point to note. Thanks for your time. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 06:32, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• Sure, I understand, and I know I'm stating the obvious--but I'm mainly saying this for those who may be new to the process of AfD. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• keep, I agree that the article needs cleanup of the points mentioned above, but this presents history of riots against a race which i think does not violate any wikipedia general notability guidelines Vazzz.. (talk) 13:42, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

• Comment, forgive my ignorance of this subject but the article does not presently cite any books, journal, or newspaper articles that discuss this subject as a whole, isn't this article a case of WP:OR? Coolabahapple (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOT#OR This is an awful mishmash of content from various sources. Perhaps only one of them was a race riot. I was particularly amazed that 2013 Little India riot was included as a "riot against Tamils" - it wasn't a race riot, simply a few foreign workers who got agitated and rioted. I removed these parts and essentially what is left is the Karanataka anti-Tamil riots and a small part about the Sri Lankan conflict. These are better covered in their own articles. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.